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But I'd love to see another writer think up another plot for Arpin Lusène.

well, it's a very particular character, and the armour could be used in only one way...you right, a third part could be boring without a perfect plot.

but, talking 'bout plot, you wrote a ducktales story, and you also drow a few stories not invented by you...how it is different make non-own stories?

(maybe i've already do this question, but i can't find the post...if you had arleady answer to me, sorry for that )

è un personaggio molto particolare, e l'armatura può essere usata in una maniera soltanto...hai ragione, può risultare noioso

parlando di trame, hai scritto una storia di ducktales e disegnato trame di altri autori: com'è lavorare su storie non proprie?

So whenever I grabbed a stack of comics to read, it might have a WDC&S with one episode of a Murry MM adventure, but I might not see the following (or previous) chapter for years as I went through those piles. Hard to follow the plot that way. But I did like his art!

It's funny think that those stories published in America with 7-8 page for number here in Italy was published for entire. Yes, because for the storyes product here in Italy the medium number of page was 30 pages in a one number of 150 pages (more or less). And, particulary in the past was frequent story of 60 or plus page!
About Murry, also in Italy generally we think that Murry's art was good, but someone criticize the too silly comportament of Goofy, express particulary with the hand in front of his nose.

E' divertente pensare che quelle storie pubblicate in America in parti di 7 - 8 pagina per numero qui in Italia venivano pubblicate per intero. Si, perchè per le storie prodotte in Italia il numero di pagine era sulla 30 in un numero di 150 pagine (all'incirca).E, soprattutto nel passato, erano frequenti storie di 60 pagine e più!
Riguardo Murry, anche in Italia generalmente pensiamo che i suoi disegni fossero buoni, ma qualcuno critica il troppo sciocco comportamento di Pippo, espresso soprattutto con la mano davanti al naso.
(Nessun riferimento ad Alec!)

Frank:
>>>>>Già, lo avevi dato al "mythical" Ray Fouchée

Si scrive Foushee... ma volevi davvero scrivere "mythical"? Significa che non esiste! Intendevi forse "legendary"?

>>>>>Ed era quello che ti aveva fatto conoscere i giornalini Marvel e la fanzine Rocket's Blast Comicollector! E anche quel famoso negozio di fumetti in quella zona malfamata dove potevi fare gli scambi...

Tutto corretto eccetto l'ultima parte. Io feci i miei scambi nel 1963 nel negozio di giornali usati nella parte più vecchia della città (dove era cresciuto mio padre). Ray mi fece conoscere un altro negozio di questo tipo in una parte più bella della città nel 1967


(edit: e questa era l'ultima traduzione prima delle vacanze... godetevi il Don mentre sono via!!!)
(this was my last translation before I went on holyday... enjoy Don's presence while I am away!!!)

It's spelled Foushee... but did you mean to write "mythical"? That implies he doesn't exist! Did you mean "legendary"?

Right---probably an Italianism. I certainly didn't mean to imply he didn't exist, even though I have never met him so far. I wouldn't know about American English usage but I was using the Oxford English Dictionary's fourth listed meaning of

MYTHICAL 4. That has acquired an idealized or exaggerated reputation on the basis of popular rumour.

This jokingly emphatic way of referring to a person is quite common in colloquial Italian!

Riassunto ita: pippone sul corretto uso della parola "mitico"

All correct facts except the last one. I did the trades back in 1963 at the used magazine store in the seedy part of town (where my father grew up). Ray introduced me to a different such shop in 1967 in a nicer part of town.

Very interesting! Then we are correcting a minor "fact" that I (obviously mistakenly) collected in one of our 1996 interviews, where you did tell me that Ray introduced you to the shop that was in the bad area in the centre of Louisville, with drunkards and prostitutes, where your father didn't want you to go. It's on page 33 of the book. God only knows where I may have the English-language original, and whether it was an email interview or a recording, but anyway I assume I probably misinterpreted what you told me, so it's great that we now have a chance to fix it after all these years

Riassunto ita: dunque devo correggere un dettaglio di una intervista del 1996, dove riportavo (pag 33 del libro) che mi avevi detto che fu Ray a farti conoscere quel negozio nella zona malfamata di Louisville.

Frank:
>>>>>Then we are correcting a minor "fact" that I (obviously mistakenly) collected in one of our 1996 interviews, where you did tell me that Ray introduced you to the shop that was in the bad area in the centre of Louisville, with drunkards and prostitutes, where your father didn't want you to go.

Well, I'm oversimplifying the whole situation since it's not important and I'm trying to not write so much. (And now I'm writing MORE as a result!)
The used-magazine store I went to from 1963-1967 was close to downtown, close to where my father spent his childhood, and this was an area of sleezy hotels, bars, strip joints, bordellos, liquor stores, etc., etc.
The area that the store Ray showed me in 1967 was nicer. It was still in a very poor section of town, still drunks wandering around, etc. ... but it was at least a residential area. Individual homes. However it was the BLACK (Negro) part of town -- that's why my father didn't want me to go there. That worried him more than the red-light district. When he was young, he knew not to wander into the Negro neighborhoods or he'd get beat up.
... all of which is off-topic. Sorry. He pushed me!

Duck Fener:
>>>>>we think that Murry's art was good, but someone criticize the too silly comportament of Goofy, express particulary with the hand in front of his nose.

Yes, that was a charming Murry oddity! I have no idea why Goofy always held that hand with all his fingers pointing back toward his nose. Like he was worried he had bad breath.
My other favorite Murry art quirk was when a character was walking. His pose would be leaning quite forward, with one arm far to the back, elbow bent, hand in a fist... the other arm outstretched with the palm of the hand facing forward as if the walker was afraid he would fall and had to catch himself. Or like an American football quarterback running for a touchdown, straight-arming tacklers in the face.

riuscì a ritrovare la sua copia :o

me co...mplimenti!

Hehe, chiedo scusa, avevo toppato io; così vien fuori che in realtà non c'era poi troppo da co...mplimentarsi perché la copia non aveva girato molto: era stata per tutti quegli anni nella collezione de suo migliore amico, al quale aveva dimenticato di averla data.

se non vi offendete, posso tradurre un pò io, vista la mancanza dei traduttori ufficiali...

Frank:
>>>>>Then we are correcting a minor "fact" that I (obviously mistakenly) collected in one of our 1996 interviews, where you did tell me that Ray introduced you to the shop that was in the bad area in the centre of Louisville, with drunkards and prostitutes, where your father didn't want you to go.

Bè, ho semplificato l'intera situazione poichè non è molto importante e ho provato a riassumere. (E come risultato ora sto scrivendo di più!)
Il negozio che di solito frequentavo tra il 1963 ed il 1967 era vicino alla periferia, vicino a dove mio padre trascorse l'infanzia, e questa era una zona piena di hotels infimi (penso significhi questo "leezy", ndt), bar, locali per spogliarelli, bordelli, negozi di alcolici, etc., etc.
La zona con il negozio che Ray mi mostro nel 1967 era più carina. Era comunque in una parte povera della città, con in giro vagabondi ubriachi, etc. ... ma era comunque una zona residenziale con case singole. Comunque era il ghetto degli afroamericani -- per questo mio padre non voleva che ci andassi. Lo spaventava di più del quartiere a luci rossi. Quando era giovane, sapeva di non dover andare là, altrimenti lo avrebbero picchiato.
... Tutto questo è off topic comunque. Scusate. Mi ci hanno costretto!

Duck Fener:
>>>>>we think that Murry's art was good, but someone criticize the too silly comportament of Goofy, express particulary with the hand in front of his nose.

Si, questa è un'incantevole stranezza di Murry! Non so perchè Pippo tenesse sempre quella mano aperta davanti al naso. Forse era preoccupato di avere l'alito cattivo.
Un'altra stranezza di Murry che mi piaceva era quando un personaggio camminava. La sua posa dovrebbe essere leggermente inclinata in avanti, con un braccio indietro, il gomito piegato, la mano a pugno... L'altro braccio disteso con il palmo della mano aperto come se chi camminasse avesse paura di cadere e si proteggesse. O come un quarteback di football americano che corre per un touchdown, con le braccia distese dei placcatori in faccia.

Yes, that was a charming Murry oddity! I have no idea why Goofy always held that hand with all his fingers pointing back toward his nose. Like he was worried he had bad breath.

LOL! Is an interpretation that i've never think before!

My other favorite Murry art quirk was when a character was walking. His pose would be leaning quite forward, with one arm far to the back, elbow bent, hand in a fist... the other arm outstretched with the palm of the hand facing forward as if the walker was afraid he would fall and had to catch himself.

I've undestand what you see, like this:



In fact the hand open towards external is another peculiarity of Murry, but perhaps less famous.




LOL! E' una interpretazione a cui non avevo mai pensato prima!

Ho capito cosa dici, come questo:

In effetti la mano aperta verso l'esterno è un'altra peculiarità di Murry, ma forse meno famosa.

Hi, Don!

I see you have customized your profile... good! Why don't give it the final touch with an avatar?

   

(identical expressions! )

This is the way to do it: Profilo ---> Opzioni ---> Ho la mia immagine personalizzata: (select the box and insert the link) ---> Modifica Profilo... et voilà!

 

Duck Fener:
>>>>>I've undestand what you see, like this:

Well, no, not quite. When a Murry character is walking, the outstretched palm has the fingers pointing UP, not DOWN as in that example.

Okay, it's the weekend when I actually LEAVE the house and go into town on errands, then do lots of yardwork. Starting now. Be back later. And I know I still have to reply to one of sed's (many!) questions.